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Post by Kielon on Dec 14, 2006 20:45:23 GMT -5
I am starting this thread to get everyone's opinions on what exactly they want. Here are some of the ideas I had:
9 council (one of each class, so that everyone has someone to go to for advice).
Heavy RP, even in instances.
Raiding night once every couple of weeks ( two reasons for this; one, raiding every weekend begins to feel more like a job than fun; and two, it fits my personal schedule, and I love raiding). This is not to say that things cannot be scheduled, just the big popular night, where we attempt to get everyone into a single group occurs relatively infrequently. Also, instance night will not be limited to the 5-man instances of 55 and above. If we have enough lower levels and you want to do *shudder* Uldaman, then we can do that, too.
New prospective members fill out a form and are accepted once every two weeks by their lead council. This gives us a chance to get to know them, invite them to functions, raid with them, and invite them during a post raid after-party held after every raiding night. If we have multiple applicants, we can divide groups and do multiple 5-mans, with leaders gaging combat and general RP skill during such events. We can even use these particular times as contests for time.
Of course, full membership is conditional upon some form of extraordinary act (which can be full history post, some in game quest, or vote of confidence by 5/9ths of the council).
Anyway, just some thoughts. Please feel free to use this thread to interject ideas. I hope to have the site up and functional by Tuesday night (my wife's 30th birthday is this weekend, so it will delay things a bit). I want this to be a guild for all of us, by all of us.
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Post by Deyla on Dec 14, 2006 21:09:28 GMT -5
Speaking from too much experience. Often the people who are good at and interested in policy and visionary leadership are not the people who are good at and interested in class leadership. Or you run across someone who would make a GREAT officer, but their class slot is already filled by someone also doing a good job. Meanwhile, in this class over there, you don't have anyone to lead it.
What you've suggested is not the worst way to build a council, but you might consider a smaller council with class leaders acting as an advisory body to the council, and with veto power over personnel issues in their class.
I've spent awhile thinking about this, and while I am liking OoT so far, I think I'll not allow them to promote me to full member, so I can easily leave and join your endeavor. Assuming you would have me, of course.
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Post by Kielon on Dec 14, 2006 21:27:04 GMT -5
Of course we will have you. This is my first real attempt at running a guild, so it will be a learning process for me.
Thank you very much for the advice.
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Post by Val on Dec 14, 2006 21:28:28 GMT -5
As I am not one for much care on politics, and I know that you will inevitably divulge with us the nature of the RP within the guild, I was just wondering if you could give a sneak peek at the RP meaning (If Any) behind the name "Metamorphisis"
And my other question would be will there be an active RP storyline to coincide with the Guild, I.E. much like what the Order of the Rose does in having a flowing, evolving storyline based around actions of guildmates in RP.
I probably need to elaborate further on the question, but half of my charm is in how mysterious I am.
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Post by Fechak on Dec 14, 2006 21:40:43 GMT -5
I'll have to agree with the lady on that point. The leadership should be made up of leaders, class leaders can come at a time that is necessary due to size, or pre-woven into the fabric.
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Post by Kielon on Dec 14, 2006 21:42:49 GMT -5
Well, Metamorphosis, of course, means a change, or the evolution of something. It has been said many times that we all want another guild, but we may look back, but must not go back, for the past is filled with many great memories that only become sullied once the attempt to recreate them is made. DoV is in the past; this is my attempt to garner all the positive energy and memories that we all have of that time and evolve into something else, like the caterpillar metamorphoses into the butterfly, this guild will do the same from DoV.
I do plan to have an active RP storyline for the entire guild; starting with the rebuild and moving forth from there. I have just to think of it first. But, give me time.
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Post by Kielon on Dec 14, 2006 21:44:20 GMT -5
Maybe class leader and guild leaders can be separate tiers: it goes guild leaders and then class leaders, who are chosen based upon merit in battle by the guild leaders?
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Post by Kielon on Dec 14, 2006 22:09:56 GMT -5
I can assure you all of this; even though I have never done this, and do not really know exactly what I am getting myself into, I will give it everything I have. I will attempt to enhance this community by making the most breathtaking guild website out there, given the innumerable resources I have at my disposal here at work. I want to make a guild that plays together, raids together, role-plays together and maybe, once in a while, gets phat lootz together. And I will pour ever bit of my sweat and energy that I can into that endeavor. This I promise.
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Post by Celera on Dec 14, 2006 22:29:55 GMT -5
People hardly ever know exactly what they are getting into. You'll do fine. And you know if it was just you and me running around STV or something, I'd still be there. Meanwhile, I wouldn't worry about having too many layers of leaders until you have a few more members. I've never thought about an exact ratio, but I would think yourself and a couple of backups/advisors/scapegoats would do for a start.
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Post by Kielon on Dec 14, 2006 22:33:42 GMT -5
I have always been under the impression that if you have the leadership in place, the rest will fall into place itself. That is why I wanted to think about setting the leadership early, so the guild could have room to grow.
(And, yes, I am bored at work, messing around with flash and swish and other website enhancing tools, refreshing the page and answering all this in real time. This is my job, ladies and gentlemen, don't you just love it?)
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Post by Emizael on Dec 15, 2006 0:33:44 GMT -5
I think a good idea might be to start small, and work towards a larger goal later, but..then again...ahhh, I dun know nothing!
I just wanna hit things!
So, if you need a henchman, I am in! If you need a leader type, can I just sit in teh background, and make paper airplanes, and then, hit the things you want me to hit?
Heehee... anyhoo...I'm in!
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Post by Robbyn Jonathan on Dec 15, 2006 1:33:55 GMT -5
Please don't take any of this as "I know best." Just comments from my real experiences.
I don't think I ever had a full complement of 9 officers. Came pretty close, but really, finding a second for Dalaran was...daunting. I found the DoV leader structure to be workable: strong on RP, weak on function. I support Sorcha's comments above. (Though the DoV houses thing did work - most anything can if you work at it).
I believe strongly that leadership comes down to a few essential components: 1. a strong work ethic 2. a calm head 3. championing a vision 4. empowering people to do what they do best 5. leading by example
I hope that Metamorphosis has a lore already. Our lore. And this forum, I hope.
I think an on-going guild RP sounds great, but I don't know how to do that myself, in-game. Most of the guild lore that I know of is on these pages. But then, I admit to being a writer first, RPer second...probably. My real-time RP usually comes out like Menshk.
Recruiting is a necessary evil. In the year or so I was GL, we generally lost 10 or so people a month, and gained about 15. I would troll every day for new recruits, and generally spent 4-8 hours recruiting every week. Later on I shared these duties, but I still was doing at least 2-3 hours of recruiting every week. Be warned.
Have fun. Being GL of the Defenders was generally great. I have no regrets. I also have no regrets for saying "Ok, I'm done."
Ask Sorcha, or Fechak, or Caspin (former GLs all). I think they would agree.
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Post by Kielon on Dec 15, 2006 2:24:51 GMT -5
As I said, I welcome all comments. This is the first time I have ever done this and welcome advice, constructive criticism, etc. from whatever source I can get it.
Metamorphosis' lore is this lore. The tagline on the site is going to be, "From the ashes, life springs anew" in direct reference to the guild halls burning. I may try to institute some addons that make for RP fun, some I found in the WoW forums, things like a custom quest creator and an addon that allows you to script various NPCs, amongst others. The site will have a list of addons I plan to use to enhance the RP atmosphere, and I hope that everyone will join me in this endeavor.
My strong point, I know, will be website maintenance. I have a ton of time at work and a ton of resources to pull from to make the stuff outside of the game as spectacular as possible. Hopefully, this will be an additional recruiting agent that alleviates some of the time needed to recruit in the game.
I know this will be a learning experience. I hope to be successful at it.
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Post by Kielon on Dec 16, 2006 2:57:24 GMT -5
Thank you to all of you that signed the charter today. We have no tabard, but we have a guild. I invite all of you to check out this addon: wow.curse-gaming.com/en/files/details/1958/groupcalendar/I have added some RP events to a calendar, including a Christmas Party, one raid and a raid after party. Load it up and tell me what you think. I love this addon. The tabard design I am unsure of. There are 4 symbols, I think, that represent a metamorphosis of some sort, or at least the idea of it: the butterfly, the phoenix, the infinity symbol and the cockroach (my personal favorite, as you know). Please share your thoughts on your favorite symbol, or on all the symbols, if that is your wish. It seems that black was an overwhelming favorite as a background color. Some of the foreground colors I liked were deep blue, deep purple, and grey (either light or dark). What are your thoughts on the tabard colors? Once again, thank you all for signing the charter.
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Post by Kielon on Dec 16, 2006 4:17:30 GMT -5
I pulled Kielon out of the Age of Vigilance, which is only appropriate, and he will take the mantle of GL for Metamorphosis (Xatov only had the charter because he was unguilded from the merger with the Lunari, after never joining).
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