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Post by Celera on Apr 14, 2007 9:45:12 GMT -5
The Defenders of Valor and its successor, Metamorphosis, have become almost an icon for many of us, a symbol of the values and experiences and friendships that we all share. That will never change.
But organizations do change, as we have discussed many times. Meta may have served its purpose as a refuge after some difficult times, a place for each of us to regain our balance. Or, maybe it still has a purpose, yet to be revealed. I'm not sure.
Still many of you have found, or are finding, a new place in another guild. There are many good reasons for this, and everyone I've heard from who is leaving is doing so for those good reasons, and not because of any ill will. So...I think this is good. It makes me (I'm sure I'm not alone) feel a little nostalgic, even a little sad, but those feelings aren't so bad.
The guild is not closing up at this time. Stay or go as it meets your needs. I am staying for now, because it doesn't seem to matter right now what guild I'm in. When I'm online, I want to talk to my friends, and you are all in the ooc channels and on my list, so I'm happy. Whether I'm in the game regularly or not, I'm here at least once a day, and most days more than that. This little community has, as Van said last night, a sort of life of its own. I hope that stays true for a good long time, yet. You are some of the coolest people I've ever known, and I'm not giving you up, no matter what color your tabard is.
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Post by Emizael on Apr 14, 2007 11:44:30 GMT -5
Okay, life happens. That's just the way of it. I couldn't bring Emi and Baaj to Meta because of just this same thing. We're all friends, and we need to stay that way. Plus, hopefully, we've held some doors open, while others closed.
Lunari. Lot of same faces, lot of new ones. Many of the old heads, Philmore, Anitor, LT, gone. Lotta old heads, Alandras, Bisan, Cellessa, Nak, still there. Me, still there.
Fate's End. Anna went back to them. Arlon joined her. Another option. Door still open.
Still, a lot of options. Meta ain't gone till we take off the tabards. Just gotta figure out what the rest of you want to do. Still, you're my friends. I kept a door open for all of you with Lunari, if ever you wanna come back.
Other then that, hey! That Finney guy was on again last night! He said he might be coming back soon!
Woohoo!
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Post by arvaitha on Apr 14, 2007 14:27:54 GMT -5
Thank you everyone for all that they have meant to me for over the past year or so that I have joined WOW and then DOV when I have met all of you. You have made my gaming experience much more than I could ever possibly imagine it would be than when I first started to play. I have often ignored the ability to even level just to be able to listen to conversations and have many times laughed so hard that I just didnt want to leave and go to bed at night! I dont know where I may end up, however, I do know that perhaps it is time for me to look elsewhere for a new guild. I would love to stay with the Metas, but it really is not enjoyable when you are alone since many have already left. But like Celera, I will remain, but until I find a new guild in which I feel comfortable. I dont know how comfortable I could be when Im already among 'family'. Of course I will still be here on the forums along with you, as well as ooc, but I will still miss those who are no longer Metas. There is just something about coming online and checking who among familiar 'faces' are on!
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Post by Gudran on Apr 14, 2007 17:22:03 GMT -5
I am sad to see this happening, but as you said Cel, none of this is in bad blood or anything. But it is hard to continue to click that "enter world" button when you know that you can no longer RP in green with your family.... and I mean that, family. I have known some of you for over 2 years and I do consider you all more than friends. I hope everyone stays in metaooc so we can always keep in contact. I do not know what I will do guild-wise yet, so I am staying put in Meta for now. Although I hope my attempt at starting a Karazhan group with you all works out! Will be tough with everyone in different guilds, but hey, we are family! Look forward to seeing you all in game, even if our tabards read a different color!
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Post by Vangelis on Apr 15, 2007 2:20:18 GMT -5
Perhaps we might create a "DOVRP" channel, thus allowing us to keep our old communicators? We can always colour it green...
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Post by Robbyn Jonathan on Apr 15, 2007 10:34:25 GMT -5
I'll join that.
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Post by Annalira Delshannon on Apr 15, 2007 11:06:42 GMT -5
Me too!
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Post by arvaitha on Apr 15, 2007 13:51:29 GMT -5
Im game!!
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Post by Celera on May 15, 2007 14:08:20 GMT -5
Since I started this thread a few weeks ago, things have changed. Well, they haven't changed, but they have progressed. Some of you have joined other guilds, a few of you remain in Meta. Some keep a foot - or a character -- in more than one place.
One thing that has actually changed is Kielon's announcement that he expects his recent absence from WOW to go on for some time. In that announcement he mentions turning over control of the guild to me.
I agreed to that, but want to be clear that I am not in a position to "lead" Metamorphosis anywhere in particular. I have always done my best to make a positive contribution to the life of the guild, often behind the scenes, and I'm happy to have done that. I'd be happy to continue doing it. But, I am missing a number of qualities that I think are essential for a successful guild leader -- perhaps most importantly, the desire to be a guild leader at all.
Troy, as Danano, wrote an excellent post recently about what is required to do the job well. (If I knew how to link stuff I would do that here.) It's a big job, and I wouldn't want to see anyone take over Metamorphosis or DoV if they aren't prepared to make the level of effort Troy describes. If any of you do want to undertake that project, please talk to me. I'd be happy to discuss ideas, and if the right idea comes along, I'd be happy to turn over the reigns.
If not, I will continue to do what I have been doing. I can't stop Meta from winding down, and I really feel ok with that. It is much like my real life at the moment -- I'm presiding over an increasingly empty nest, and keeping it available in case anyone's first venture into the wider world doesn't go smoothly. It's a little sentimental, but it's not a bad thing.
I'm in no hurry to join anywhere else. I'm just sort of "watching the wheels go 'round" as Lennon said. I wanted to be clear about this in case anyone is waiting for me to announce some new initiative or program or something, because that is not forthcoming, at least not from me.
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Post by arvaitha on May 15, 2007 17:43:18 GMT -5
I know for one, that I dont expect any great 'metamorphisis' of the guild that hasnt happened before. I want to just mention, that when this guild was reformed, at least from what I understood, the intentions were mainly for us RPers to have a place were we could do exactly that. In the beginning stages, we were agreed that it would only be for rp purposes since many of us were not big on raiding (me being one of them). The guild grew larger than expected and alot of people I think expected it to be something like we were before, but perhaps were disappointed that we werent. But, we were still all together and that was what was important to many of us. I miss all those who have left since it means that I am alone when I come on a lot of the time, but I will still keep a few of my alts as Metas if even for just sentimental reasons. So, Celera, I think its enough just to have you there knowing you will be there if needed. And I think you are the wisest choice when being chosen as the new leader.
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Post by Celera on Jun 6, 2007 10:34:39 GMT -5
Just to avoid any unnecessary speculation -- a couple of days ago I moved Laranna back to the Lunari. I have no plans to move any other characters there for the time being. It's unlikely that I would ever move Cel there. I may move Thel eventually if it seems I need to in order to get into Kara and some of the other high end stuff.
Most folks have moved their mains out of Meta to Lunari or whatever other guild they have chosen, so it seemed like a good time to do this. As I've said before, we are a group of friends with a long history (very long by gaming standards) and our little community here and online has a life of its own that transcends everyone's current guild affiliation. I'll still be online under the Meta tag a fair amount of the time, although I am playing Laranna a bit more lately as she gets closer to 60.
I should also say that I didn't encounter anything but good will from the Lunari. Most of them probably don't remember Laranna or her relationship to Celera, but even some who do have been quite warm in welcoming her back. Also, Redentor spent a couple of hours the other night with Biggles, my husband's paladin, helping him with talents, gear and strategy. I know he felt like a grade-schooler getting tutoring from a college professor -- it helped him a lot with his gameplay. There are a lot of folks in the Lunari, and in other guilds as well, who are skilled players and good people. If we are getting out into different guilds and meeting more people like that -- well, that can't be a bad thing.
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Post by arvaitha on Jun 6, 2007 19:45:25 GMT -5
Well, I, myself have left the Meta's and joined the Order of the White Tower along with Balhamr. They seem to be a good lot so far, and I enjoy their company (usually about 10 at the fewest on), but it is strange to 'start over' with another group. And as I had said before, I will still keep Lizzy and Demytria as Meta's as my 'foot still in the door' so to speak. I also want to remind all those who have yet to find out that the /dovrp channel is open, that I keep looking for you all.
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