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Post by Albured on Aug 29, 2006 21:16:50 GMT -5
I propose that we do one more good rp event with group pictures and soon just incase it might be the last time or near it that we are all togeather as defenders like a all out killing spree in the arena or something something new and fun just keep a rezzer out of combat to chain rez. Being a lunari won't be bad just not as good as being a defender with so many members I can't see them being as tight as we are let's face it no matter who we log in as everyone knows who you are kind of like cheers. And I bet it won't be that way there just too many players and toons to keep track of or that might just be me.
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Post by Heng Arikana on Aug 29, 2006 21:47:55 GMT -5
I second Al's proposition. One last RP event would certainly be wonderful, and perhaps we can even lure some of our retired companions out of their rocking chair for a last hurrah!
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Post by Val on Aug 29, 2006 22:16:12 GMT -5
I agree with Al, I think we should do one last Event sometime. Something were we can all get together for at least a few moments before the final transition. Kind of a laying of the Tabard, so to speak. Whether this event should be in Canon with how we can RP our Transition or not doesn't matter, I just would really be a good thing to just allow one last bash before we let the guild fade into memory.
I do think, though, that I need to at least let everyone know on my feelings regarding the loss of the Defenders and the reason why I put up a slight objective against it. I agree with Al, I think we should do one last Event sometime. Something were we can all get together for at least a few moments before the final transition. Kind of a laying of the Tabard, so to speak. Whether this event should be in Canon with how we can RP our Transition or not doesn't matter, I just would really be a good thing to just allow one last bash before we let the guild fade into memory.
I do think, though, that I need to at least let everyone know on my feelings regarding the loss of the Defenders and the reason why I put up a slight objective against it.
While I do understand that the merger will breath an incredible breath of air into our lungs as players, it will be a hard thing for me as I feel I am losing my identity that I worked hard at building within the guild. Whether that Identity be the person I RP as, or the person I really am doesn't make a difference. It also means I have to go through my whole uncomfortable surroundings stage, but that's just me being shy. I do understand that this move, is a well needed thing for us. As it is, we would have simply coursed ourselves into oblivion and possibly never spoke to one another again, outside of the Forum of course. This merger will be our second life I hope. Now on with the sentimental stuff that I have been too shy to really get off my chest for a while.
I guess I really never understood why I took up Kal (Or Raldin at that time) on his offer to check out the Defenders. I had absolutly zero guild experience and really was, and I still am (despite the fact that you all would argue otherwise) quite shy. I didn't want Valand at the time to be Guilded, I didn't want Val at the time to get past 30, I already had a 50 Warrior that needed finishing, why should I work all the way up with another one? I doubt I ever figure that out, but it really doesn't matter because that blind chance I took, despite my better feelings and knowledge, led me to meet and befriend some of the most remarkable people a 17 year old kid from a small farming community can meet.
The first person that really set his claws into me and made me feel part of the group was Fech, at the time he was playing as Monuv. It was that grind from 20 to 50 or so, that I got the absolute most joy out of this game, or any other game, I think I have ever played thus far into my short life. So, whether he admits it or not, I do consider him a great friend of mine, despite the fact that he calls me a fetus. If there was one reason, and one reason only, that I would go to Lunari, or to completely disband, would be by his wishes. But don't get me wrong, all of you, or at least all that I have REALLY made a connection with mean a lot to me, let the brown nosing begin.
Doc, Sam, and Pol, three people who literally restored my sanity in times when I would completely go bonkers with my advice to Albured. I do think, that all of us can agree that the Brothers and the Hot Priestess all gave us an infinite source of advice and power to do the things, that we as a group would not have known how to do otherwise. They were kind of like a bridge over having to learn to do things the hard way. Not to mention the trio came with two Priests and a killer Rogue ( and the only Rogue to date that I can't beat in PvP ) It was their help and guidance that really helped me through the 50's, and the constant nagging of Fech and Caspin.
Then came on the 60's and the death of motivation. I learned a terrible amount about Raiding, moreso about this game than things I should actually know, like... cooking or mathematics. With Vangelis being a sort of a model for me as to what I wanted to create my character. Van, whether you realize it or not, you've always been my "goal" I've set as a warrior and as a player. I still set you as a "goal", in the fact that your willingness to learn about the game is so un-ending and the fact that you take that knowledge and don't develope a big head. Not to mention the fact that I have not ONCE seen you get upset. Which is scary because I would have thought you were a Robot. But you just know how to turn the other cheek better than most people.
Albured, you know, your never ending crusade to deal the death blow to the english language is a near constant source of entertainment. And the fact that you know you are doing it, makes it about 3000 times more entertaining. Al, your stories, your real life stories are the reason you have no need to RP. I know I am quoting someone on this, I can't remember who, but your life, is by far more fantastic than anything I can concieve of. Your RP is your vacation to Egypt.
Then there's people like Finney, Emizael and Arlon, who are just out to spite my every action.
Heng and Daramoon are often a untold story, but everyone knows. As they've put it they kinda got left in the dust, and now at their peak of 60, they may run into some trouble. I just recently started to value how well they play, and generally how fun and nice they are. If there are good people in this world, they'd be two of them.
Angoleth, Anna and so on, the raid queen from my stand point, despite that I haven't had a terribly long amount of time to get to know her, she has proven to be a listening ear and a person who is a generally nice person to talk to. Trust me, if your lonely and your playing WoW, she's the person to talk to. She's almost always there.
Kielon, whom I don't know that well, has displayed this sort of intelligent, cool guy demeanor that everyone has seen, liked, and at one point, tried to be like. I hope to get to know Kie better in the eventful days to come.
Robbyn, Windy, Dan, Menshk, whoever you are nowadays, you have ALWAYS intimidated me, but not in the bad way. Your something of a prestige in this game that I don't find often in real life or elsewhere. You are an epitome of what a player and obviously an author should strive to be, at least in my opinion, and that isn't be brown nosing, because your not the Guild Leader anymore. My only regret is that I haven't gotten to know you better.
There's Kal, the behind the scenes guy whom, through his own generosity went through all the bulk supplies, sorted them and compiled them into nice neat stacks, that unfortunately were lost to time and the devil urges of Oblivion. But he rightfully passed his load onto another person whom has been, in truth an emotional crutch that I trusted over all else in trying times of my teenage life.
That'd be Celera, this motherly figure whom everyone adores, and if you don't, I'll kick you in the shin. Because you should.
Really, I know this seems like a giant truckload of shoe licking but this is an honest feeling. The fact that I feel like I grew, not only as a player but as a person, from each and everyone one of you, makes this transition a sort of fragile time indeed. DoV is not part of the game for me anymore, it hasn't been for almost a year now. It's been part of my life, and I thank all of you from the bottom of my deep bleeding heart for everything you have all given me.
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Post by Vangelis on Aug 29, 2006 22:42:50 GMT -5
That has to be the best piece I've read in ages, Val - thanks for setting it down. Very true. And, for the record, it always surprises me that you're only 17. You totally fit into a group of mature (well, Celera anyway), intelligent adults - which says a lot about you, shy or no.
I'm certainly up for an RP event, schedule (and puppy!) permitting.
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Post by Fechak on Aug 29, 2006 22:52:28 GMT -5
I'm glad you got that off your chest Val - thanks a ton for sharing.
Just know that if you called me up one day and said you're running away to SoCal you'd have a place to crash. Hell that goes for all of you and that boils down to the whole reason why I'm pushing this forward. I want us all to stay together. Even if we all slowly stop playing wow over the course of the next few months (which I don't foresee, but still), I want us to stick together here and continue on... I've never had this and as Polly said to me once, it's weird to be so close to people for so long then when a new game comes out you just don't see them one day and then forevermore... You guys are all so special to me that I can't bare to think of that happening here.
So please, no matter what, let us stick together.
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Post by Celera on Aug 30, 2006 1:33:14 GMT -5
I'm glad I'm not the only one who feels this way. And....what Fech said. Plus I actually have a guest room Val, it's hard to remember sometimes that you are only 17. Most people are still obnoxious kids at that age -- you are at least five years ahead of schedule in the journey from adolescence to cool guy-ness. And I know you meant motherly in the sense of being totally cool, groovy, rad, dope or whatever it is the young people are saying these days. Because I'm not bringing the cookies and lemonade.
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Post by Emizael on Aug 30, 2006 2:00:53 GMT -5
Wow. Valand. No more jokes on you, brother.
We all feel the same. You can read this post over and over again, and you see that we all feel the same. We're still not leaving! We're still here, still friends, and will continue to be!
No jokes here. Visions too blurry. Got something in my eye.
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Post by Gudran on Aug 30, 2006 2:17:10 GMT -5
Well said! I hope to stay together as a group as well, no matter the game. Although it has been difficult for me to balance WoW with college, my girlfriend (who plays on occasion... I'm offerring lessons for 5$!), and my real friends (you are all real friends to me, I'm just talking about my lifelong friends since first grade that aren't cool enough for WoW, ), I will always find time to stay in contact with you all. As I told Val earier this evening, many times I have come online at oddball hours, no one is around and I feel dissappointed because I look forward to being with ya'll when I play. However, the forums will (hopefully) last forever, so I will make it my utmost effort to come by (and write more... *grumble*) everyday. Oh yeah, and thanks for mentionin' me Val... jerk.
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Post by Heng Arikana on Aug 30, 2006 6:26:28 GMT -5
Wow, the things you learn by reading the boards! Val, I had no idea you were 17 (I had you pegged for at least 17 1/2 - just kidding!). As Celera said, you act way more mature than I remember being at 17. I'm sorry that we've only just met - but there's alot more we can do now that we're at the 'end game'. And if you ever, ever need us - like if that nasty Blazerunner picks on you again - please let us know . We will ride to the ends of Azeroth to help you. Oh, and if you wanted to crash on the East Coast (NY), I have a guest room too! Heng
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Post by Angoleth Isera'Duna on Aug 30, 2006 8:51:15 GMT -5
I know I'm kind of the "new face" around here, even if I've been here since February , but I wanted to say that I feel the same way as you all do - I look forward to logging in to talk to you and do things with you. And I know that this upcoming change will be "different" for all of us, but the names will still be there in the roster and in guildchat, and we will have the forums. My life has been through some huge transitions recently (namely all of my real life friends graduating and moving far away) and getting to talk to you all when I'm in WoW has kind of been a sanity mender. I know in some ways An (the "raid queen" - hehehe) is an oddball, but I can't imagine leaving the community and friendships that I've made here - and you have no idea how much it means to me that you all put up with my raid nights AND my RP! And I may not have a guest "room" per se, but I have a (very comfy) sofabed if you're ever in Houston! And Celera, you don't need to bring the cookies, An will do that <grins>. (( out of curiosity, though, what is going to happen with the DoVOOC channel? Will we continue to use that or will it go away?))
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Post by Arlon on Aug 30, 2006 10:41:45 GMT -5
I vote to keep the dovooc channel up and running. That way we can still act silly and goof off the way we always have and not feel like they are going to judge us by some of our... how you say... unusual personalites at times. I mean some times people just need to vent.
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Post by Celera on Aug 30, 2006 11:20:31 GMT -5
OK, I think I've recovered my Vulcan dignity. Val -- you owe me a whole box of tissues.
I've thought about dovooc. And I want to keep it too -- but the reasons I want to keep it are exactly reasons why I think maybe we shouldn't.
The immediate temptation in joining a larger group is to still hang out with each other, still talk mostly to each other, still have our own jokes and stories among ourselves. And still be just us with a new tabard. I don't think that is the right thing to do -- it isn't fair to the Lunari. And ultimately won't solve the problem we are trying to solve here.
We like each other because we are all such cool people -- and that's why the Lunari like us and are looking forward to the merge. And, having spent some time with them, I assure you there is no lack of humor or fun among them either. I think we will fit in rather easily, if we make the effort, and I fear that dovooc could be a crutch that keeps us from making that effort.
That said, we may need it for a little while during the transition, as a practical matter if nothing else. If we decide to keep it, I just ask that all of you really do make an effort not to rely on it excessively and get out there and make new friends as well as keeping the old ones.
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Post by Heng Arikana on Aug 30, 2006 14:30:48 GMT -5
You make a great point Cel. At first, I was all for keeping the channel - my first thought was Why wouldn't we?. But in the broader scope of things, it might just allow us to remain insulated from Lunari, and therefore could keep us from really becoming part of the guild.
However, I would suggest perhaps that we keep it up for a short time, perhaps a week after we all re-tag, just as an outlet, a comfortable place we can all go. Maybe just as a place to ask questions, such as 'Hey does anyone know this Lunari hunter who just asked me to group with him?', or even a place to share our online D&D stories. There are still some things that Lunari might not be interested in hearing us prattle on about, after all.
After that, it should slow down and perhaps go away all on its own...
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Post by Malka on Aug 30, 2006 15:04:16 GMT -5
Keeping the dovooc channel has one HUGE benefit -- it lets you see instantly when someone still tagged with DoV logs on -- and whoever else is there can talk to them and tell them how to get the new guild tag.
I'm opposed to using it for much else, though. If we're going to do this, we need to do it all the way. The only DoV residue should *maybe* be the stories here.
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Post by Fechak on Aug 30, 2006 20:26:29 GMT -5
I plan on bringing to the floor of Lunari the matter of starting up their own channel, therefore we can simply get passed all the things that may hinder and go straight toward the things that will help.
Yeah that sounded lame, but I'm in a rush.
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